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  • verityverity Administrator, Citizen
    I vaguely remember news around the movie but don't know who she is either.
  • AmityAmity Administrator, Citizen
    edited May 2023
  • verityverity Administrator, Citizen
    Oh yes I heard that song.
  • AmityAmity Administrator, Citizen
    Meant to post this one instead

  • verityverity Administrator, Citizen
    I like the second one best. I think its stronger vocal example and the melody is better.

    The first is still good, but is like a typical pop song not dissimilar from the wrecking ball idea, but the second has much more depth.
  • verityverity Administrator, Citizen
    I don't know the exact technical term but I believe it might be croak, the not quite warble but a wavering interrupted breath is pretty good, and and also some vocal fry makes for a pretty rich and emotive experience and the melody and rhythm makes it.
  • AmityAmity Administrator, Citizen
    I agree, glad you like it, ☺
    It's rare to see a video of her singing.
  • AmityAmity Administrator, Citizen
    This is how she performs live these days


  • verityverity Administrator, Citizen
    The upside down cycling moves is the only thing I took away from that. 😆
  • Statest16Statest16 Citizen, Mentor
    Post got a lot of responses ,cool ,I should listen to her songs 
  • verityverity Administrator, Citizen
    It is an interesting discussion about how do you perform if you don't like to show your face or are aloof. That idea is kind of like Adams family meets modern dance.

    REM's michael stipe famously just used bull horn/megaphone to cover his face. He was asked to mime on Top of the Pops. He had no clue how to mine, didn't want to do it, so he came up with that idea and has since become a motif of the band.

    Whole genres like shoegase epitomise aloofness. Jesus Mary Chain and  My Bloody Valentines for example. 

    There is the Irish band  God is an Astronaut, who performs mostly unlit, or use light to push themselves into he background and often using projected images, with a very prog/ethereal sound of then with no or limited lyrics.
  • verityverity Administrator, Citizen
    edited June 2023
    Another fairly aloof band was/is the Belgian Cold Wave band Siglo XX


    Aslo did the projected iamge thing an often dimly lit.
  • verityverity Administrator, Citizen
    Miles Davis often performed with his back to the audience and wandered around the stage focusing on playing an not playing to the audience.
  • Can't stand the way over the top vocal style so many of them have nowadays. Just sing normally FFS!
  • verityverity Administrator, Citizen
    I think there were always different vocal styles, Freddie Mercury, Enya, Bowie, Kate Bush, Nina Simone, Whitney Houston, etc. Not sure what a normal sing would be apart from perhaps relative to a western classical or operatic tradition.

    A lot of what we consider standard pop and rock singing styles came out genre like gospel and blues. Elvis being a key example he even had a gospel a capella group do his backing.

    The issue I have today is lack of dynamics, and melody in commercial music, it is almost frowned upon, so don't like vocal styles the purposely clip or avoid dynamic.

    I was never in to warbling or super contrived vocals, but really the skill is in treating the voice as in instrument within the composition, so it is all possible as long as it fits the music.
  • I'll admit to being old fashioned. Joan Baez,Judith Durham, a young Joni Mitchell, Sandy Denny, Mary Travers are the kind of female vocalists that  I like.
  • verityverity Administrator, Citizen
    I'll admit to being old fashioned. Joan Baez,Judith Durham, a young Joni Mitchell, Sandy Denny, Mary Travers are the kind of female vocalists that  I like.

    Ah that makes sense folk including counter culture beat styles tended to focus on straight vocals and american "song book".

    To a certain extent country and blue grass but hat has its own twang.

  • SlyFoxSlyFox Citizen, Member
    i only know her from this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghPcYqn0p4Y

  • verity said:
    I think there were always different vocal styles, Freddie Mercury, Enya, Bowie, Kate Bush, Nina Simone, Whitney Houston, etc. Not sure what a normal sing would be apart from perhaps relative to a western classical or operatic tradition.
    If you want an "interesting" (female) vocal style, here's one from Ukraine (She sings in English) - I'll note (as a warning) that this one often pops up on "reaction" videos for a reason :)

  • Statest16Statest16 Citizen, Mentor
    Interested singing voice,never heard her before
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