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  • verityverity Administrator, Citizen
    In the west country Cornwall, Devon, ect 'my lover' is used for friend equivalent to 'mate' and even English people find this unusual. 

    "alright me lover"😉 is just a greeting.

    'mate' is totally normal though. 🙂

  • Statest16Statest16 Citizen, Mentor
    verity said:
    It is usually older women who call younger men or women dear. When it is platonic. An older man could get away with it with a younger woman. They would likely be a grandfather, where it is obviously platonic an not done in a creepy way.

    Also 'love' is used in the same context, and american find this very odd when they visit to be called love at the checkout, but it is just a term of enderament.  Love would be more working class version of dear.

    In South Yorkshire / North Midlands the term 'duck' is used in place of love/dear.
    That's a different context from when Americans use "dear" as an insult ,if your aunt called you dear or love ,no one would care.
    For instance I'm the second youngest of seven children so my oldest sister is 66,could be a lot of my friends mom right.
    If she calls me kid ,I would not mind at all but if someone under 55 called me kid I would not like it at all.
  • Statest16Statest16 Citizen, Mentor
    verity said:
    In scoland hen is used for females. Again women have more licence to use it.
    The terms "chic" or "fox" for a female is common here and "chickenhead" is a crass ghetto slang for a loose or sleazy woman or older teen girl especially if there prego at 15 or 16.
  • verityverity Administrator, Citizen
    edited December 2022
    hen is more nurturing/endearment, it is more a female to female term. 

    bird is the equivalent to chick in the south. My bird could be a girlfriend. It is less politically correct.
  • Statest16Statest16 Citizen, Mentor
    verity said:
    hen is more nurturing/endearment, it is more a female to female term. 

    bird is the equivalent to chick in the south. My bird could be a girlfriend. It is less politically correct.
    Makes sense
  • Statest16Statest16 Citizen, Mentor
    verity said:
    hen is more nurturing/endearment, it is more a female to female term. 

    bird is the equivalent to chick in the south. My bird could be a girlfriend. It is less politically correct.
    To make the point more clear and blunt; Is that in American culture "independence" is valued highly .So the issue is not so much political incorrectness but anything that makes one feel infantilized or made feel as a child.Calling a woman a hoe (slang whore) is a compliment if it means she's tough and from the streets.
  • verity said:
    Ey up mi duck
    Lol I was born in  West Yorkshire, we said chuck, pet or luv as an endearment, "any road" instead of anyway, "where there's muck there's brass" meaning if you work hard and get dirty you'll make a living. They are smashing down to earth people, very warm, practical and hard working. Ducky is used more by Londoners I believe.
  • verityverity Administrator, Citizen
    edited December 2022
    Statest16 said:
    To make the point more clear and blunt; Is that in American culture "independence" is valued highly .So the issue is not so much political incorrectness but anything that makes one feel infantilized or made feel as a child.Calling a woman a hoe (slang whore) is a compliment if it means she's tough and from the streets.

    What did you think of it though? Did you think the third person was rude?

    For us Third person could actual a way to denote independence becuase it is impersonal, it doesn't assume anything about the person or relationship between them. But can sometime be reverence.

    I suspect calling someone a hoe as a compliment is tinged with more than a little irony or identifying as one. After all, very few can go it alone, and subject to pimps and extortion, and are exploited by dealers and Johns. Modern escort services not withstanding. Humour is often about contrast (tragic irony being a form of contrast). I doubt if is genuinely form of empowerment, but these thing aren't cut and dry.
  • verityverity Administrator, Citizen
    edited December 2022
    Teach51 said:
    verity said:
    Ey up mi duck
    Lol I was born in  West Yorkshire, we said chuck, pet or luv as an endearment, "any road" instead of anyway, "where there's muck there's brass" meaning if you work hard and get dirty you'll make a living. They are smashing down to earth people, very warm, practical and hard working. Ducky is used more by Londoners I believe.

    I love the variation between West, North South East and Riding and also the Rivalry with Lancashire. Were your contemporaries hard on the t' stops or did they omit it altogether?

    How would they say "I'm going to the shops"?

    a. I'm going ta shops.
    b. I'm going t'a shops.
    c. I'm going t'shops.
    d. I'm goign to t'a shops.
    e. I'm going shops.


  • Statest16Statest16 Citizen, Mentor
    verity said:


    What did you think of it though? Did you think the third person was rude?


    It didn't hurt my feelings I hold no grudge and I tipped her $5 for the cut,it just make me wonder if my neurological issues bled through to her.Was more curiosity than hurt.
  • Statest16Statest16 Citizen, Mentor
    verity said:


    I suspect calling someone a hoe as a compliment is tinged with more than a little irony or identifying as one. After all, very few can go it alone, and subject to pimps and extortion, and are exploited by dealers and Johns. Modern escort services not withstanding. Humour is often about contrast (tragic irony being a form of contrast). I doubt if is genuinely form of empowerment, but these thing aren't cut and dry.
    Yes,certainly very contextual,calling someone a "ho" as an endearment is not for every or even most situations,I was simply making a point.I would not go around calling women ho's.It's more women from the American ghetto environments calling each other ho's as an endearing term!
  • Statest16Statest16 Citizen, Mentor
    verity said:
    Teach51 said:
    verity said:
    Ey up mi duck
    Lol I was born in  West Yorkshire, we said chuck, pet or luv as an endearment, "any road" instead of anyway, "where there's muck there's brass" meaning if you work hard and get dirty you'll make a living. They are smashing down to earth people, very warm, practical and hard working. Ducky is used more by Londoners I believe.

    I love the variation between West, North South East and Riding and also the Rivalry with Lancashire. Were your contemporaries hard on the t' stops or did they omit it altogether?

    How would they say "I'm going to the shops"?

    a. I'm going ta shops.
    b. I'm going t'a shops.
    c. I'm going t'shops.
    d. I'm goign to t'a shops.
    e. I'm going shops.


    The Brit English has me lost LOL ,is there a Google translate for this!

    I'm wicked confused I guess I'll bang a u'eie and hit the packie!
  • Teach51Teach51 Citizen
    edited December 2022
    verity said:
    Teach51 said:
    verity said:
    Ey up mi duck
    Lol I was born in  West Yorkshire, we said chuck, pet or luv as an endearment, "any road" instead of anyway, "where there's muck there's brass" meaning if you work hard and get dirty you'll make a living. They are smashing down to earth people, very warm, practical and hard working. Ducky is used more by Londoners I believe.

    I love the variation between West, North South East and Riding and also the Rivalry with Lancashire. Were your contemporaries hard on the t' stops or did they omit it altogether?

    How would they say "I'm going to the shops"?

    a. I'm going ta shops.
    b. I'm going t'a shops.
    c. I'm going t'shops.
    d. I'm goign to t'a shops.
    e. I'm going shops.

    c. Im going t'shops . Or I'm goin up shops
    I forgot to say that we used lass a lot. Ey up lass, the grass'll start growin on your backside soon if yer don't get a move on.😁

  • verityverity Administrator, Citizen
    Yes and also ta for for thank you.

    @Statest16 is tah used in Boston for thank you?
  • Statest16Statest16 Citizen, Mentor
    verity said:
    Yes and also ta for for thank you.

    @Statest16 is tah used in Boston for thank you?
    No ,not for thank you ,it would be used for "tar" as in the tar on the roads used for pavement or tar in the lungs left from smoking,from tar ,pronounced tah ,not for thank you.There is nothing I know special for thank  you in any New England English dialect.

    If your curious what I said in MA/Boston English was "I'm very confused and I'm turning the car around and going to the liquor store".
  • Statest16Statest16 Citizen, Mentor
    Statest16 said:


    I'm wicked confused I guess I'll bang a u'ie and hit the packie!
    I'm  very very confused and turning around and going to the liquor store.

    U'ie means to turn around ,because when one turns around ,one makes a U shape,hence do a U'ie.
  • Statest16Statest16 Citizen, Mentor
    I have seen videos on Cockney though, and it seems that words that rhyme are a common theme.You change phrases by rhyming words.Also Cockney can be a spectrum .I watched a Clash concert on Youtube and Mick Jones has some of a Cockney for sure as do most rock stars in general.When the bass player Paul Simonon sang "guns over Brixton" the accent was so strong it was in understandable,it could have Chinese to me,I could not get a word of it.
  • verityverity Administrator, Citizen
    Statest16 said:


    U'ie means to turn around ,because when one turns around ,one makes a U shape,hence do a U'ie.
    that is the same here, though paki is a racial slur.

  • verityverity Administrator, Citizen
    Offie is a liquor store form Off Licence, meaning they have a licence to sell liquor taken off premises unlike bars and restaurants (though now some have both).
  • Statest16Statest16 Citizen, Mentor
    edited December 2022
    verity said:

    paki is a slur here:
    Packie; Is from old puritan New England and from the early 1600's on in the MA Bay Colony ,one could not show alcohol in public and the law stayed on the books in Massachusetts when other states dropped it.
    Alcohol has to be sold in a package to conceal what it is,a paper bag or a large box if needed.Liquor stores were called "package stores" then slang to 'packie'
    To hit the packie is to go to a liquor store and also "doing a packie" is a term for buying alcohol for minors.

    No relation to Paki the slur,Teach told me about that too actually  but the spelling is different.

    Americans do not generally specify a nation when insulting Muslims or Middle Easterners ,we use terms like dot head,towel head,rag head,hajji,sand nig#$%,dune c#$% Habeeb's etc...........
  • Statest16Statest16 Citizen, Mentor
    verity said:
    Offie is a liquor store form Off Licence, meaning they have a licence to sell liquor taken off premises unlike bars and restaurants (though now some have both).
    Packie came from "package store"
  • pangolinpangolin New Member, Member
    Hylian said:
    Is it apparent to other people that you have autism, or less specifically something "wrong" with you?

    I can tell that other people know something is "wrong" with me because they react to me like they think I'm odd, and sometimes people avoid interacting with me due to it. I also get stared at sometimes.

    People have treated me like this my whole life and it can frustrate me. I usually don't know why people are reacting like that since I try to act "normal", so it makes me self conscious and want to avoid interacting with others.

    I would say that being observed as "odd/unusual/different/wrong/etc." in social situations is equivalent to being visibly autistic as most people are uninformed on how autism presents in an individual and especially distinguishing them from an unconventional but non-autistic person or a person with a similar disability. Many people discriminate against autistic people not because they have identified them as autistic but because they have observed unconventional features that they believe justify their own behaviours against them.

    I have always been an oddity even with attempted masking but with unmasking and formal supports I am now a very obvious weirdo. Although I'm more likely to experience more ostracisation for my visible autism, it was a trade-off I had to make to preserve my mental health and everyday energy.
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